Agree completely. People have to actually suffer before they finally take action; I've seen it time and again throughout life. No-one bats an eyelid until either the personal wallet is hit or the body physically suffers (cold, lack of food, etc). And my constituency was dumb enough to replace a long-term Tory MP with a foreign-looking Labourite who doesnt even live in the area.
If your mind is very literal, as it seems to be, I can't explain it to you. Irony. Dark humour. Snark. Reaping what you sow. Learning lessons the hard way. Relishing the unveiling of the truth, however painful.
Oh thank you. My mind is very scientific yes. That's why I looked into the climate denial cult tropes for myself and their patheticness (and being funded by fossil fuel industries with vested interests) were partly (along with the evidence) what convinced me that anthropogenic climate crisis is very real and that very soon we will indeed be reaping what we sow and learning lessons the hard way and not just with a few power cuts enjoyed by those who've been manipulated.
I realise that your mind is closed and you won't read this but here is some of the nonsense that Jordan Peterson came out with that convinced me a mindfuck was going on.
Jo, just a suggestion, no commitment needed but try getting through a month without hydrocarbons and see how you get on
I suspect your standard of living will change immeasurably
We in the West owe our entire way of life and enjoy far better lifestyles because of hydrocarbons. I for one do not feel at all sorry for it
If we don't use them, China and the rest of the global south will. Countries such as Indonesia and India want to grow their economies and their citizens want better standards of living. Oil, Coal and Natural Gas will help them to achieve that
Lastly, for those thoroughly bought into the climate cult, why is nuclear power not the only solution? It is carbon free, 92% efficiency and guaranteed base load energy - particularly useful for those dark wet days in Northern England in the long winters when the sun doesn't shine and the wind rarely blows
Power cuts are coming alright. You can be sure of that.
I'm not reading past the first facile sentence. this is a strawman argument. No one is saying society can exist without hydrocarbons, especially is they disappeared overnight, but we are soon going to have to when we reach peak oil and they're too expensive to extract, or the petrodollar collapses from the rise of BRICs, or the supply chains dry up because of the agression against Palestinians and the axis of resistance, then we would be reliant on renewables- which we already are to an extent (i'm not even mentioning the effects of the well established climate crisis).
Try going a month in hot Texas without the renewable power that propped up the air conditioning.
Minibrain is obsessive. The whole disaster is based on a lie-that Co2 warms the atmosphere, whereas the tiny percentage is essential for plant growth. Minibrain's solution is nothing but virtue signalling, since if we cannot produce our own power, we will have to import it adding to the cost and emissions of so doing. How an otherwise intelligent humanoid can think otherwise is a mystery to me. Every alternative to fossils cost more, and work less well, like battery cars and air source heat pumps. Madness!
An excellent article Tom. This is the most comprehensive destruction of the climate change lie and defenestration of UK self-harm ideology I’ve read. That one chart alone showing China and India increasing CO2 emissions by 200% and 150% respectively from an already MASSIVE base really says it all. Yes Miliband is an idiot, a zealot and dangerous but the Tories under Boris and his crazy Missus and even Mrs May (she also ran through a field of wheat and killed some plants) weren’t much better really. It’s going to be an accumulation of the effects of self-harm and hopefully a Trump win (and maybe some Reform local council and by election wins) to wake people up. One other fact not mentioned by Tom is that Tata shut Port Talbot and opened a blast furnace in India. Net effect on emissions zero! Why did they do it? Labour costs are higher in Wales than India but electricity is over 7x higher and coal is readily available whereas we could have supplied Cumbrian coal. But guess who gave that coal mine in Cumbria the kiss of death.
And yes! I saw that Tata has opened blast furnace in India. The UK has been fully dismantled now. We are at the mercy of foreign powers. Quite an achievement by our 'rulers' and we've allowed it to happen.
We did allow it to happen Tom but when both main parties were offering the same thing what choice did we have. Next time we can take the blame if we don’t vote Reform.
Ed Miliband was the one who introduced the 2008 Climate Change bill, blinded by the now Baroness Worthington from the Friends of the Earth who drafted the legislation supported - without any due diligence or impact assessment except for economic predictions full of untruths - by all but 5 MPs. Everyone in the House of Commons was to blame; many of the public was and is to blame - because people sent in emails to their MPs demanding that they pass the legislation. Nothing willl happen till the Climate Change Committee is disbanded and all the decarbonisation legislation is repealed. Will this ever happen? Perhaps only when we have had really harmful blackouts and are truly impoverished. Will this ever happen? Interconnectors from the EU and other imports will continue to hide the mess, so maybe not even though utility bills will go up and up. Will the people ever realise decarbonisation was only ever about deindustrialisation of the West - as planned by globalists, the UNEP and other fascists? I doubt it.
The welfare state has collapsed and the country is economically and militarily in rapid decline. How to convince people that they still need « leaders » who have never achieved anything outside party politics ? Answer : invent a new project of world historical importance (!)
Naturally, for those countries with a future, the project is a ludicrous exhibition of self importance, tragic and risible at the same time.
as I have written elsewhere, until the climate zealots, like Miliband, stop exhaling CO2 into the atmosphere, we will know that they do not honestly believe their BS but are gaining something else.
Pedants corner: Carbon is soot, a solid. Acceptable to be against emitting it. Carbon dioxide is a gas which is more debatable. So “carbon emissions” doesn’t really mean what you think it means.
Splendid essay, Tom. I realise now the error of my cowboy boot and shorts phase. On the thorny problem of who will stop this, I believe we need a "Goldilocks" crisis - hot enough to force widespread public recognition of the course we are setting to return to early Victorian squalor and life expectancy, but not so hot that we collapse our financial system and economy entirely. A very cold winter this year might qualify. Sadly, given that 26,000 more vulnerable people already die in the winter than in the summer, it will likely involve death. But better a smaller number now than a larger number later.
Haha. Hi Richard, And We all had an equivalent of the cowboy boot and shorts phase.
And you're right. we are now being taxed until we squeak, with government, particularly this Labour one, determined to (as you say) return Britain to a pre empire, pre industrial age.
You hit the nail on its head- you say 'they' (Labour) want Britain to return to a pre- empire slum time: ie before the exploitation and colonisation of the Global South by Britain followed by the US Empire continuing the tradition and stealing and killing in order to maintain energy dominance, security and the petrodollar.
Agreed, closing nuclear is silly and, yes, net zero is a con for fossil fuels to continue to pillage and profit (with renewables accounting for increases in energy demand not transition) and to delay meaningful change indefinitely into the future- but big news flash about what is actually going on in the world- both the US empire and the economies dependent on the petrodollar are going down the pan along with Israel and the rise of BRICS. We're also reaching peak fossil fuel making it too expensive to extract: be nice to have some recourse to other energy sources.
You recite some tired old tropes about Britains co2 emissions (China is lower than us per capita), the tiny percentage for farm land used for solar, no reason it can't be used simultaneously for both and the ridiculous nonsense about co2 and the gas of life.
However, economic collapse and the climate crisis will affect us both regardless of our opposing views- so lets enjoy life while we can.
Heehee you seem to be implying that the demise of British coal mining and steel production is due to Ed Milliband and his pet project- you vastly overestimate his power!
Miliband needs to use Labour's big majority to change the law in order to achieve a decarbonised grid by 2030. Unfortunately, the law he needs to change is the Law of Thermodynamics.
Deliberate. The globalist, Fabian, one word government agenda does not want strong, prosperous countries, they are not so easy to control. Why do you think Liz Truss was got rid of. Suggest reading Tom Luongo and Alex Krainer.
Looking forward to the power cuts. I think they should be concentrated in constituencies that voted Labour MPs into power.
What a brilliant idea!
Agree completely. People have to actually suffer before they finally take action; I've seen it time and again throughout life. No-one bats an eyelid until either the personal wallet is hit or the body physically suffers (cold, lack of food, etc). And my constituency was dumb enough to replace a long-term Tory MP with a foreign-looking Labourite who doesnt even live in the area.
It's going to get nasty as the wallets are about to be not just hit, but ransacked.
You're looking forward to power cuts so you can say 'i told you so'? what a plank!
You've missed the point by a mile, but this myopia afflicts all in the climate cult - otherwise they wouldn't be in it in the first place.
What was you point?
If your mind is very literal, as it seems to be, I can't explain it to you. Irony. Dark humour. Snark. Reaping what you sow. Learning lessons the hard way. Relishing the unveiling of the truth, however painful.
Oh thank you. My mind is very scientific yes. That's why I looked into the climate denial cult tropes for myself and their patheticness (and being funded by fossil fuel industries with vested interests) were partly (along with the evidence) what convinced me that anthropogenic climate crisis is very real and that very soon we will indeed be reaping what we sow and learning lessons the hard way and not just with a few power cuts enjoyed by those who've been manipulated.
I realise that your mind is closed and you won't read this but here is some of the nonsense that Jordan Peterson came out with that convinced me a mindfuck was going on.
https://jowaller.substack.com/p/climate-change-hasnt-been-debunked?utm_source=publication-search
No, your mind isn't 'scientific'. A scientific mind is an open mind above all else.
Jo, just a suggestion, no commitment needed but try getting through a month without hydrocarbons and see how you get on
I suspect your standard of living will change immeasurably
We in the West owe our entire way of life and enjoy far better lifestyles because of hydrocarbons. I for one do not feel at all sorry for it
If we don't use them, China and the rest of the global south will. Countries such as Indonesia and India want to grow their economies and their citizens want better standards of living. Oil, Coal and Natural Gas will help them to achieve that
Lastly, for those thoroughly bought into the climate cult, why is nuclear power not the only solution? It is carbon free, 92% efficiency and guaranteed base load energy - particularly useful for those dark wet days in Northern England in the long winters when the sun doesn't shine and the wind rarely blows
Power cuts are coming alright. You can be sure of that.
I'm not reading past the first facile sentence. this is a strawman argument. No one is saying society can exist without hydrocarbons, especially is they disappeared overnight, but we are soon going to have to when we reach peak oil and they're too expensive to extract, or the petrodollar collapses from the rise of BRICs, or the supply chains dry up because of the agression against Palestinians and the axis of resistance, then we would be reliant on renewables- which we already are to an extent (i'm not even mentioning the effects of the well established climate crisis).
Try going a month in hot Texas without the renewable power that propped up the air conditioning.
Minibrain is obsessive. The whole disaster is based on a lie-that Co2 warms the atmosphere, whereas the tiny percentage is essential for plant growth. Minibrain's solution is nothing but virtue signalling, since if we cannot produce our own power, we will have to import it adding to the cost and emissions of so doing. How an otherwise intelligent humanoid can think otherwise is a mystery to me. Every alternative to fossils cost more, and work less well, like battery cars and air source heat pumps. Madness!
Who would want you to think that cheaper renewables were in fact more expensive????https://jowaller.substack.com/p/big-oil-is-in-control?utm_source=publication-search
Oh dear. If co2 didn't warm the atmosphere it would be minus 18 degrees not plus 15 on earth! https://jowaller.substack.com/p/climate-change-hasnt-been-debunked?utm_source=publication-search
What's fascinating is that today - 2nd October - only 28.9% of power generation is via renewables as there is less wind: 14.7%
As at 1pm wi d is 11%, solar doing well at 22% (not so much tonight!). Without gas, 29%, we would be stuffed even with the 20% from interconnectors.
Thay must see their dream is impossible so it must be plain old treason against the UK
it's got to be - the evidence of the impact is clear.
An excellent article Tom. This is the most comprehensive destruction of the climate change lie and defenestration of UK self-harm ideology I’ve read. That one chart alone showing China and India increasing CO2 emissions by 200% and 150% respectively from an already MASSIVE base really says it all. Yes Miliband is an idiot, a zealot and dangerous but the Tories under Boris and his crazy Missus and even Mrs May (she also ran through a field of wheat and killed some plants) weren’t much better really. It’s going to be an accumulation of the effects of self-harm and hopefully a Trump win (and maybe some Reform local council and by election wins) to wake people up. One other fact not mentioned by Tom is that Tata shut Port Talbot and opened a blast furnace in India. Net effect on emissions zero! Why did they do it? Labour costs are higher in Wales than India but electricity is over 7x higher and coal is readily available whereas we could have supplied Cumbrian coal. But guess who gave that coal mine in Cumbria the kiss of death.
Thank you very much.
And yes! I saw that Tata has opened blast furnace in India. The UK has been fully dismantled now. We are at the mercy of foreign powers. Quite an achievement by our 'rulers' and we've allowed it to happen.
We did allow it to happen Tom but when both main parties were offering the same thing what choice did we have. Next time we can take the blame if we don’t vote Reform.
Ed Miliband was the one who introduced the 2008 Climate Change bill, blinded by the now Baroness Worthington from the Friends of the Earth who drafted the legislation supported - without any due diligence or impact assessment except for economic predictions full of untruths - by all but 5 MPs. Everyone in the House of Commons was to blame; many of the public was and is to blame - because people sent in emails to their MPs demanding that they pass the legislation. Nothing willl happen till the Climate Change Committee is disbanded and all the decarbonisation legislation is repealed. Will this ever happen? Perhaps only when we have had really harmful blackouts and are truly impoverished. Will this ever happen? Interconnectors from the EU and other imports will continue to hide the mess, so maybe not even though utility bills will go up and up. Will the people ever realise decarbonisation was only ever about deindustrialisation of the West - as planned by globalists, the UNEP and other fascists? I doubt it.
The welfare state has collapsed and the country is economically and militarily in rapid decline. How to convince people that they still need « leaders » who have never achieved anything outside party politics ? Answer : invent a new project of world historical importance (!)
Naturally, for those countries with a future, the project is a ludicrous exhibition of self importance, tragic and risible at the same time.
as I have written elsewhere, until the climate zealots, like Miliband, stop exhaling CO2 into the atmosphere, we will know that they do not honestly believe their BS but are gaining something else.
Absolutely
Pedants corner: Carbon is soot, a solid. Acceptable to be against emitting it. Carbon dioxide is a gas which is more debatable. So “carbon emissions” doesn’t really mean what you think it means.
Pendants always welcome. Thank you Dave.
Splendid essay, Tom. I realise now the error of my cowboy boot and shorts phase. On the thorny problem of who will stop this, I believe we need a "Goldilocks" crisis - hot enough to force widespread public recognition of the course we are setting to return to early Victorian squalor and life expectancy, but not so hot that we collapse our financial system and economy entirely. A very cold winter this year might qualify. Sadly, given that 26,000 more vulnerable people already die in the winter than in the summer, it will likely involve death. But better a smaller number now than a larger number later.
Haha. Hi Richard, And We all had an equivalent of the cowboy boot and shorts phase.
And you're right. we are now being taxed until we squeak, with government, particularly this Labour one, determined to (as you say) return Britain to a pre empire, pre industrial age.
You hit the nail on its head- you say 'they' (Labour) want Britain to return to a pre- empire slum time: ie before the exploitation and colonisation of the Global South by Britain followed by the US Empire continuing the tradition and stealing and killing in order to maintain energy dominance, security and the petrodollar.
Agreed, closing nuclear is silly and, yes, net zero is a con for fossil fuels to continue to pillage and profit (with renewables accounting for increases in energy demand not transition) and to delay meaningful change indefinitely into the future- but big news flash about what is actually going on in the world- both the US empire and the economies dependent on the petrodollar are going down the pan along with Israel and the rise of BRICS. We're also reaching peak fossil fuel making it too expensive to extract: be nice to have some recourse to other energy sources.
You recite some tired old tropes about Britains co2 emissions (China is lower than us per capita), the tiny percentage for farm land used for solar, no reason it can't be used simultaneously for both and the ridiculous nonsense about co2 and the gas of life.
However, economic collapse and the climate crisis will affect us both regardless of our opposing views- so lets enjoy life while we can.
https://richardcrim.substack.com/p/the-crisis-report-93
Oh, and thank you for reading and commenting. Tom
The lunatics are now in charge of the asylem.
solar and wind have not generated any jobs
Solar uses 0.1% of farmland https://www.carbonbrief.org/factcheck-is-solar-power-a-threat-to-uk-farmland/
Milliband has also not banned drilling in new North sea projects- he doesn't have this power even if it were true that he tried.
Heehee you seem to be implying that the demise of British coal mining and steel production is due to Ed Milliband and his pet project- you vastly overestimate his power!
Miliband needs to use Labour's big majority to change the law in order to achieve a decarbonised grid by 2030. Unfortunately, the law he needs to change is the Law of Thermodynamics.
Haha! That's so true isn't it. Excellent point.
Deliberate. The globalist, Fabian, one word government agenda does not want strong, prosperous countries, they are not so easy to control. Why do you think Liz Truss was got rid of. Suggest reading Tom Luongo and Alex Krainer.
I agree - I wonder how India and China are going to fit with their plans - but the UK and Germany for two are in steep deliberate decline.